And the consumers are noticing:
On 11/18/2017 Hp Touchpoint Analytics Client was installed on my computer without my concent, I’m assuming it was installed in the background as an update to Hp support or framework.
However it happened I don’t appreciate it’s sneaky take over of my computer’s system resources.
From yesterday to today it’s been making my computer work so hard I can hear it like cranking away and the light in the back of my computer is flashing rapidly in-tune with the cranking.
HP has not released an official response to the complaints either and it’s not yet clear how the new driver is being installed. It may have come with the latest Windows updates, or via HP and its support assistant processes, but regardless, customers aren’t happy. “I understand that it hoovers all sorts of telemetry data — and I am not willing to share too much of it really, definitely not without my knowledge,” says one user on HP’s forums.
There is a speck of good news, however. According to Engadget, the offending driver can be removed relatively quickly and easily, but against a wider backdrop of repeated privacy scandals, that’s hardly the point and only semi-comforting to those affected.
Please. What do you think Windows 10 is all about? It is spyware central. Microsoft decided to get into the Facebook/Google game by gathering and selling user information to marketers.
Why do think Meg Whitman has "Gone Fishing"
She went to visit Winston Smith, and ended up in Room 101.
Ha .... that's why the first thing you do when you buy ANY PC from ANY major manufacturer is to do a clean install...
Most people have no idea how to do that and no desire to learn how a computer actually works. That's why they use Winblows.
The first thing I do is a clean install... of a Unix-like OS, Linux unfortunately being the only decent one at the moment.
Why the fuss? Winblows 10 includes a keylogger, so 'THEY' can record your every keystroke. Better not shout, better not cry, better now pout, they're goin' in DRY.'
The problem now being how to get clean OS software to do a clean install, and then keep it that way.
Holy shit, I was looking at that EXACT piece of software on my Son's (HP/Compaq) laptop last night! I couldn't figure out why it was using so many resources and it doesn't show up in the list of installed software in the Control Panel (no way to remove it). I'm guessing it's built into the other HP "bloatware" applications that are already on the machine. And the resolution is likely going to be to remove everything labeled as being from HP. (I know, I know, I shoulda done that already.)
This was NOT the same HP software that came on the laptop on Day 1. It was part of some automatic update just recently. That's why I went looking- it slowed his laptop down pretty bad all of a sudden a week or two ago.
Fucking dickheads at HP.
If you go into task manager, you can see what process is running and using CPU, Memory, disk, network and GPU. If that process appears in "services", you can then disable it or if it's identified as a software, uninstall ti or delete it. Might have to do a clean boot to delete it if it starts automatically with windoz.
Thanks
same shit here
LOL, $3.5 million is like a bank fine -- absolutely no deterrent as well worth the cost based on all the priceless information they will obtain from the adware. Why even bother to fine them when not at amounts that will deter?
For a big company like HP 3.5 million is 3.5 cents to them.
And to the shit stains that decided to do it - it's nothing. It costs the shareholders, not the decision-makers.
They'll probably get a raise...
Why do ZH'ers even care, since ZeroHedge isnt a secure website.
#1) zerohedge isn't responding ----- close program
BS!!!
I prefer buying all my market reseach data from the NSA.
This is NOT an article about Windows 10.
You must be a public school product. Can't read an article and comprehend it in order to make a relevant comment.
You are the one with a comprehension problem. The point was made that Windows 10 already does this.
Then don't use it. Stop playing victim and do something.
Apparently this is retard post day on ZH. Stating the fact that Microsoft got into the spyware game with Windows 10 is not "playing victim."
Use Linux
Who would buy a HP? PURE junk. Build your own.
Build your own and install Linux..
Seriously, who needs windows these days? I can even play CS-GO and many other games on my linux build.
If we are not that smart....win 7 dell, gateway?? what mfr?
Yeah, why not build your own computer. While you’re at it, make yourself a car. And how about learn to cut your own hair? Need medicine? Don’t be a dick and go to the pharmacy! Make your own!
Brilliant!!
I am a rust addict myself. Your right Linux is the only way these days. However I am concerned about Intel's IME and AMD's equivalent. Not for myself, but for the World in general.
If you play online government is analyzing your strategic thinking skills. Tied to your credit card and Red Tube history - they know you.
Linux (e.g. the Mint distribution with the Cinnamon desktop) runs smoothly and is a viable alternative to Windows, but there are undeniable issues*. Often difficult to get functioning hardware drivers. LibreOffice open document file formats are only partially compatible with MS Office, so you could be f****d if your clients have the latter and you only have the former. The Wine emulator for expensive Windows/Mac-only software such as Photoshop has security and performance issues. But on balance it is worth a try IMO.
* http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.cu...
I stopped using Debian based Linux because there were too many issues (this includes mint and ubuntu). Arch Linux is where it's at these days. For a noob I would recomment Antergos and I prefer gnome to cinnamon but you can always try multiple desktop environments and switch between them at login until you find one you really like, but it's true that no Linux is without issues. The entire OS is too spread out among too many development teams. I helped my wife install on her laptop and it's default desktop manager (lightdm) didn't load properly. I walked her through the process of switching getty, stopping the lightdm service, installing gdm instead, and starting the gdm service. Not a big deal, if you know what you're doing. But most people don't, nor will they ever. Most people see a command line prompt and they immediately put up mental barriers. "Oh I can't do this." They have no desire to learn, which is why Linux will never ever take off. The GPL is also holding it back. What sane company wants to get involved with all those legal issues? Unfortunately in computers (and society in general) you are always constrained by what the majority of people want. If you want games you have to use Winblows. If you want Unix-like you basically have to use Linsux or join the Apple cult. I hope one day FreeBSD overtakes them but it's just not ready at the moment for an everyday OS, especially on a Laptop. The driver support just isn't as good. For servers it's unbeatable though. Unfortunately too many people are brainwashed by this GPL pseudo-freedom bullshit so Linux isn't going away any time soon. You will always have companies making OSes derived from BSD, like macOS etc.. I wouldn't be shocked if even Microsoft went this route eventually. Unix is objectively superior in every way. That's why even MS isn't using Windows for their cloud servers. It's crap.
There are workarounds to these problems but for 95%of users these are a non issue.
Sure, let me build my own laptop. Everyone does that.
PCs no problem. Laptops, good luck.
I have Arch Linux as my main OS on my laptop, which is not ancient. It's a Lenovo but I'm sure it's just as easy on HP laptops. It's not some huge hurdle. That's one thing the Linux community does well, keep the drivers working although battery life isn't as optimized as it is in Windows. Too bad they are wasting all that time on Linux instead of BSD though.
Try building your own laptop. Good luck with that.
Building a laptop is only different in that you have more constraints and form factors to deal with. One you have your chasis/mobo selected, assembling it isn't any more difficult than an ordinary desktop PC. It's also very pricey. Unless you need a gaming/3D graphics development laptop, it's not worth the money or effort.
Everything you need https://www.newegg.com/
Plus 1000,s of on line help...Bobby Bushaaa You Can Do It!
HP used to be such a fabulous engineering company.
Destroyed by womyn.
Sad.
farly criminilla was NOT a woman...
HP was destroyed by the very same short-sighted sales channel bullshit that did for Dell. they spent billions of dollars and years of man-hours building up the channel through people like me (i run an IT support company who *used* to sell HP), then canned it all by offering better deals to the end-user
Fuck both of them.
Look at what they did to Mark Hurd...
Whatever PC touches (pun intended) it F-cks over.
More accurately it started to go to hell after Bill & Dave left.
This is only news to people that have just awoken from a coma for the past 15 years.
They also recently took over Samsung Printers division............
Citizens, time to destroy these spying tech firms esp the goobook monopolies.
Use brave browser to block advertising, malware and tracking/spying by DEFAULT on any device and operating system.
Peter Thiel funded brave and if government won't punish these firms with meaningful fines and break ups then the citizens must render these business models worthless esp the spying/tracking digital advertising business.
It is my data - why am I not a stakeholder getting paid?
Brave browser - best stocking stuffer - it is free.
Chris,
Pigpen
I'll take Tor Browser over any other for surfing.
Alot of evidence that Tor was created as a honeypot. Even if it wasn't, it has been confirmed that Tor is compromised and doesn't not protect you from NSA. Then again, I doubt Brave does either. Brave is an excellent mobile browser though.
Tor uses a ip relay of others that participate. This will show yoar IP from another country and you can change at will. Also the user.js file is modified to disable info about yoar system and other fingerprinting from the browser. I don't know of a better browser for privacy when connected to the internet other than VPN.
I'd enjoy reading the evidence if you could post further information of where that is. Thks.
Tor does not rely on trusting the operators of the exit nodes, and in fact if you comb through the Snowden leaks for the "Tor Stinks!" presentation, the NSA seem to have not found a way to defeat Tor when the tool is used correctly.
It often is not. It is often used configured poorly, with out of date versions, with plug-ins that defeat anonymity, without end-to-end encryption. Any of these, as examples, can give you away.The Tor network was designed from the ground up to resist that -- for the sake of the American military intel guys in field work and special ops who originally designed it and still want to use it undetected by their opposite numbers. Much as some of their cohort at the NSA might resent how that makes their particular jobs…stink.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Tor-essentially-an-NSA-honeypot?share=1
I never mind ads on webpages.... ie., Zerohedge etc... they provide free content for us, but its not cheap for them in terms of time and costs.
However the first time I get a pop-up that tries to lock my browser with a 'Security Alert', then all bets are off and into Adaware it goes.
i have bought my last pc. between windows 10 and the hardware manufacturers i am totally pissed off. pity too because i used to love that shit.
Same here, Microsoft is dead to me after abandoning Windows 7, arguably the most stable and optimized OS ever (after XP). The only thing Orwell got wrong was that the plebs will pay thousands of dollars for the spying devices that will enslave them, instead of it being thrust upon them by a totalitarian government.
Evil genius at work