Facebook advertisers have threatened to abandon the platform in the wake of a massive data harvesting scandal which began after it was revealed that an app created by two psychologists - one of whom Facebook employs - gathered data on over 50 million Americans and then sold it to political data firm Cambridge Analytics and several others, who used it without consent.
Mark Zuckerberg, co-founder and CEO of the social media giant gave several interviews Wednesday after spending three days in hiding, ostensibly with a crisis management team which advised him not give wholly unsatisfactory answers to one of the largest data breaches in history.
The scandal is pushing some Facebook advertisers to consider dropping the platform, reports The Times.
ISBA, a British group of advertisers that spend hundreds of millions of pounds a year on Facebook, demanded answers. It is understood that some of its 3,000 brands, which include those of the consumer goods companies Unilever and P&G, will not tolerate association with Facebook if it emerges that users’ data has found its way into the hands of brokers and political campaigners without authorisation. Sources close to the trade body said that if the company’s answers were not satisfactory, advertisers might spend their money elsewhere. ISBA will meet Facebook executives this week.
Others, such as Mozilla - the company behind the Firefox browser - have already pulled out, or as it said have "pressed pause" on Facebook advertising. In a scathing post, Mozilla said that "when Facebook takes stronger action in how it shares customer data, specifically strengthening its default privacy settings for third party apps, we’ll consider returning." Until then, "Mozilla will advertise elsewhere" as it warned in a blog post this morning:
Mozilla is pressing pause on our Facebook advertising. Facebook knows a great deal about their two billion users — perhaps more intimate information than any other company does. They know everything we click and like on their site, and know who our closest friends and relationships are. Because of its scale, Facebook has become one of the most convenient platforms to reach an audience for all companies and developers, whether a multibillion corporation or a not-for-profit.
We understand that Facebook took steps to limit developer access to friends’ data beginning in 2014. This was after Facebook started its relationship with Cambridge University Professor Aleksandr Kogan, whose decision to share data he collected from Facebook with Cambridge Analytica is currently in the news. This news caused us to take a closer look at Facebook’s current default privacy settings given that we support the platform with our advertising dollars. While we believe there is still more to learn, we found that its current default settings leave access open to a lot of data – particularly with respect to settings for third party apps.
We are encouraged that Mark Zuckerberg has promised to improve the privacy settings and make them more protective. When Facebook takes stronger action in how it shares customer data, specifically strengthening its default privacy settings for third party apps, we’ll consider returning.
We look forward to Facebook instituting some of the things that Zuckerberg promised today
Meanwhile, Facebook shares remain under rising pressure - falling approximately 8.6% in three trading sessions and down again on Thursday premarket as investors - particularly "ethical" investment funds - reconsider their decision to hold the increasingly radioactive company.
Nordea, the largest bank in the Nordic region, which manages about £283 billion (~$400 billion USD), said that it had put some of its Facebook investments in “quarantine” while it assessed the scandal. Union Investment, a German group that manages about £255 billion ($360 billion USD), said that it was reviewing its holding of Facebook shares. -The Times
Investors have also launched several lawsuits against Facebook, claiming that the company made "false and misleading statements" regarding its privacy policies and who they share data with.
$FB
— Ed ☯️ (@DowdEdward) March 21, 2018
Revenue was $3.7B in 2011, and over $40B in 2017. They had a 1 billion users then and now have 2 billion users. The question is revenues went up 11x while users went up 2x. Are we sure they just sell ad space?...🤔...I am guessing they sell data...your data! pic.twitter.com/WiAFcOUMDu
One San Francisco shareholder, Fan Yuan, filed a lawsuit on behalf of an undisclosed party of investors who claim that Facebook's "omissions" led to a "precipitous" decline in the company's stock price - wiping out nearly $50 billion of value on Monday and Tuesday.
A Maryland woman who said that she was “frequently targeted with political ads while using Facebook” during the 2016 US election filed a separate suit against Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, alleging that the companies had treated her personal data with “absolute disregard”. Cambridge Analytica denies that it used Facebook data to “microtarget” political adverts when it worked for the Trump campaign. -The Times
Yesterday, WhatsApp co-founder Brian Acton, who Mark Zuckerburg turned into a billionare after Facebook bought his company for $22 billion, is now telling people to delete their Facebook accounts, promoiting hashtag #deletefacebook.
It is time. #deletefacebook
— Brian Acton (@brianacton) March 20, 2018
Action was referencing the online movement that is gaining steam in the wake of the data harvesting scandal.
After staying on for three years, Acton quit Facebook in September, and is now a major backer of rival messaging service Signal, which boasts encryption to make its messages resistant to government surveillance.
In a Wednesday night interview with CNN, Zuckerberg admitted that Facebook "made mistakes," and that "This was a major breach of trust and I’m really sorry that this happened. Our responsibility now is to make sure this doesn’t happen again."
Zuckerberg also vowed to notify all users "whose data might have been affected" by the breach, and will be "happy" to testify before congress "if it's the right thing to do."
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says he is "happy to" testify before Congress "if it's the right thing to do" https://t.co/nqc5puq5Ua pic.twitter.com/LW5Pn9ak8z
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) March 22, 2018
Zuckerberg said in a Facebook post that he has pledged to investigate suspicious apps and ban developers who violate data sharing rules or refuse to comply with an audit. He added: “We will restrict developers’ data access even further to prevent other kinds of abuse. For example, we will remove developers’ access to your data if you haven’t used their app in three months. We will reduce the data you give an app when you sign in — to only your name, profile photo and email address."
“We’ll require developers to not only get approval but also sign a contract in order to ask anyone for access to their private data. We’ll have more changes to share in the next few days.”
That said, tens of thousands of apps could be harvesting data...
Yesterday Dr Kogan, the Russian-linked Cambridge academic who obtained the data of 50 million users by offering “personality quizzes” before selling the data to Cambridge Analytica, told the BBC that “tens of thousands” of apps could have done the same thing.
A Facebook whistleblower told MPs that the company had ignored his warnings and lost control of users’ data by giving easy access to developers. Sandy Parakilas said that when he worked at the company in 2011-12 “personal identifiable data was basically allowed to leave Facebook”. He told MPs that he had warned executives that poor safeguards could enable foreign powers or data brokers to harvest data. -The Times
ISBA notes: “The claims that other apps using the Facebook platform, and pre-dating 2015, have collected similar bodies of personal data and that controls for distribution have been inadequate, raise questions about the possibility that Facebook data has been, or is being used improperly elsewhere. ISBA is asking Facebook for a full account.”
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bhaahaaa ... as if no one knew
It will come out soon that FB has been doing much more of the same thing, and worse.
In reply to bhaahaaa ... as if no one… by pc_babe
To the Chief Executive Jew and his army of psychologists:
Remember the war on Infowar's income.
A tit for a tat...
The sudden dissipation of an advertising space is all the better for advertisers, because it reduces their expenditures. I wouldn't expect them to fight for that, especially in view of the demographics of users which now confines to the very clumsiest of obese black female land whales. The market hath spoken...
Next in line: Google. I expect them to be even dirtier because of the mail... let the whistleblowers out.
http://www.orrazz.com/2018/03/report-police-are-now-asking-google-for.h…
In reply to … by BennyBoy
Fakebook is where you go every morning to find out what your friends didn't invite you to the night before....
In reply to X by Adolph.H.
I'm sure if it weren't for those folks from Cambridge Analytica, FB shares would not be going down and instead would just keep soaring, cuz it ain't bubble this time!, right? oh, wait...
In reply to Fakebook is where you go… by Stan522
Now that Jewbook helped Trump get crowned they can pull out.
But I bet Trump never pulled out, though.
Would you?
https://celebrity-leaks.net/donald-trump-ex-lover-karen-mcdougal-nude-p…
https://celebrity-leaks.net/stormy-daniels-nude-photos-leaked/
In reply to I'm sure if it weren't for… by egerman
legally they had consent, morally, well, like our gvt, its out of bullets.
In reply to I bet Trump didn't pulled out by Leakanthrophy
"Pull out"........
Ya, that's what she said.
In reply to legally they had consent,… by 1 Alabama
Advertisers can pull out of Facebook...but they've contracted the social disease...so where are they gonna go and do I give a frack?
In reply to "Pull out"… by ZENDOG
This makes me quite happy to read. Everyone on 'The Hedge' was already privy to this information, but the fact that advertisers are pulling out really starts my day on a high note.
In reply to Advertisers can pull out of… by kralizec
...and the lemming wake up and find out that there is no "free" in the world.
I'm sure the legion of shrinks and spindoctors working for these douch-bag companies will get the fuckers back in line...no time flat.
In reply to This makes me quite happy to… by American Psycho
Advertisers are only pissed somebody got access to the data for free while they had to pay for it.
In reply to ...and the lemming wake up… by Sofa King
Zuckerbergsteinwitz had to go on CNN and avoid a real news interview, where he might be pressed to explain exactly what Fakebook's product is.
Maybe he'll be asked what Fakebook sells when he's sitting in front of the swamp.
In reply to Advertisers are only pissed… by NoDebt
Pull out before you blow your wad. Spread it around elsewhere. Simple logic. We're talking marketing dollars right?
In reply to Zuckerbergsteinwitz had to… by eclectic syncretist
Love Facebook Throwback Thursday! I jizz jewels of joy seeing all those hot 80's chicks...........
Okay, maybe I'm lying. I don't have FB and never will.
But, I have the memory of those tight asses in Guess jeans.
pods
In reply to Pull out before you blow… by bania
When the "service" is free, you're the product...
Looks like this is the digital-age version of the old: “There ain’t no such thing as free lunch.”
In reply to Love Facebook Throwback… by pods
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====http://www.todaysfox.com
In reply to When the "service" is free,… by Hugh_Jorgan
[Captain Louis Renault:] “I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find that illegal data harvesting is going on here!”
[Mark Zuckerberg:] “Here is your demographic and economic data on our users, sir.”
[Captain Louis Renault (Soto voice):] “Oh, thank you very much.”
In reply to Start working at home with… by slopz38
Yahtzee!
In reply to Advertisers are only pissed… by NoDebt
Is MZ a plastic human clone?
BOOM.
In reply to Advertisers can pull out of… by kralizec
So Zuckface goes on CNN and cries his crocodile tears.
Nothing will change.
In reply to Is MZ a plastic human clone?… by freedommusic
My question is how much pretense is there in the "fake" outrage? F**kface got caught with his pants down. Just like at FB, honest IT people like Parakilis know about these issues. They're ignored because the overall purpose of these Tech Giants is to spy, control and deceive the Plebs. I am especially wondering about Mozilla's "outrage" naivete because ZH bloggers warned about their more cozy relationship with spyware and other Tech spymasters a few months ago.
In reply to Advertisers can pull out of… by kralizec
Good
In reply to Fakebook is where you go… by Stan522
Other than the privacy issues that were always there with the internet, it is ridiculous to focus on FB, acting it is the only part of the internet with intrusive elements. It is all that way. Instead of focusing on the apps, people should ask themselves why so many people have so much time for apps.
Facebook is [one] of the places to alleviate boredom for 80 million mostly underemployed and often part-time workers in America—i.e. [half] of all employed humans in the USA. When you only work part time, you have a lot more time for apps.
From David Stockman:
The underemployed are an 80-million-strong market for advertisers with varying amounts of earned [and unearned] income, depending on womb productivity and how much of their earned income is allocated to necessities-only due to non-welfare-eligibility or a lack of spousal income.
The underemployed include:
Then there is the retired population, not that all of them are done chasing jobs in the part-time / gig economy, but all of them have retirement income from government for advertisers to target, with the average SS check being about $1,300.
The retired FB users are a big market of 65.1 million, with guaranteed monthly retirement income from government to spend, and 39% of them have other sources of retirement income for advertisers to target. https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/chartbooks/fast_facts/2016/fast_facts16…
Many of America’s retired population of 65.1 million SS recipients gather on FB to post show-off-grandbaby pics——-no more often than the many [employed] moms in the many discriminatory workplaces “voted best for moms” who post baby-show-off pics on FB [AND OTHER APPS] when at work——-albeit they might or might not be posting them during their long periods of excused absenteeism.
Then we have assortative mates—a highly paid man married to a highly paid woman—representing about 20% of any app’s best advertising prospects, as they keep the salaried wealth in fewer households, halving the size of the US middle class and halving the size of advertisers’ good, working-aged sales prospects.
However much salaried wealth they concentrate in one household, assortative mates can only spend so much of their income. They are almost always parents—crony parents—and like their low-income crony-mom staffs in the many childbearing-aged-mom-dominated low-wage jobs, the highly paid assortative mates take off a lot of time from work (for kids), leaving them with a lot of app-posting time.
Libertine absenteeism is possible because of computers that do more of the assortative mates’ highly paid work, just like computers do more of the work of low-income mom employees, working part time due to 1) spousal income or 2) welfare for out-of-wedlock reproduction.
Assortative mates often spend large chunks of their excused-absenteeism time in Europe and other locations outside of the USA, boosting those economies with copious amounts of extra money for babyvacations, but they also spend a lot of their extra money on their expensive homes. App advertisers in the travel and home-improvement categories have a good luxury market there.
Facebook [and many other apps] also offer advertisers access to America's 50 million working-aged, out-of-the-workforce citizens, but since they have very limited spending money, the app needs to weed them out from the better advertising prospects.
Which include:
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/individuals/earned-income-tax-cr…
Politicial operatives working for EITHER party—otherwise known as the Uniparty—are interested in targeting any of these groups since votes require no money, but their preferred clientele is likely voters.
Political operatives do not care about individual voters, though. They are looking for the number of likely voters sufficient to ensure victory for their candidate and more six-figure opportunities for them. There is no way that some lady in Maryland or anywhere else received more targeted political ads than other targeted voter groups. That seems delusional.
As annoying as many people find commercial ads, I sincerely doubt that political ad targeting works as much as these arrogant people, with their stats and charts, seem to think it does.
Many of us look at internet ads as the price for using the carefully constructed apps that we like. We do NOT like the targeted ads, but we put up with them because of knowing that the sites we like are financed that way.
Could intrusive be too intrusive, crossing over into 4th Amendment issues? Yes. But it is not at all clear that apps are doing much more than accessing information to construct lead lists, mostly for sales purposes and, otherwise, on the level of a candidate’s bumper-sticker.
I do not think it really works as much as they think. Some art people might like the more artistic ad offerings, just from the standpoint of good design, but most ads are not aesthetically pleasing.
For the most part, people hate them and just stoically accept them.
Politicians are in the business of making people believe in them enough to stand in a 2-hour line to vote. Much like we put up with ads to read a good site or to use a high-quality app, most people vote despite the unsavory political-ad barrage because of policy positions politicians claim to represent, not due to the fact that we respond to ads like Pavlov’s Dog.
In reply to Fakebook is where you go… by Stan522
Alex Jones? Seriously? Lemme guess you're also a PCR & Snowden fanboy.
In reply to X by Adolph.H.
What's wrong with your cognitive functions my young and inexperienced friend?
In reply to Alex Jones? Seriously? … by XBroker1
What's wrong with Snowden? Without him, we wouldn't have the evidence that the US spies directly on its citizens.
In reply to Alex Jones? Seriously? … by XBroker1
Haven't you been keeping up? Snowden wrote the censorship algo's on Twitter, etc. He also was a CIA Plant in the NSA. Do you trust the CIA? Do you actually trust Snowden? His "fake defection" mission was to discredit the NSA at the request of the CIA. That failed.
In reply to What's wrong with Snowden?… by RedBaron616
Turn off MSNBC
In reply to Alex Jones? Seriously? … by XBroker1
Alex Jones is an idiot. Sure, he covers some legitimate things and then he runs off the rails with some wacko conspiracy theories. He also sells snake oil as some kind of miracle products. I notice that most of his productions are video/audio. What that means is he is followed by those who don't want to read a well thought out argument so that we can see what's covered and what's not. In other words, analyze. Rush and Alex are for people who wish to be spoon fed. Don't ask them to think for themselves. They don't know how.
In reply to X by Adolph.H.
Alex Jones or CNN?
Make a choice.
In reply to Alex Jones is an idiot. Sure… by RedBaron616
"If it's the right thing to do..." needs to hear from the "4AM source" on what to do next.
In reply to … by BennyBoy
Pacer list of indictments. Some names unsealed. Curious what you guys think. https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1-1bDtCNdsSBjG2SupkhIRc6Dz4gacqI5
In reply to "If it's the right thing to… by TahoeBilly2012
Irony - using Google Drive to store the data.
In reply to Pacer list of indictments… by Incorporated b…
One of their (FB) earliest investors was the venture capital arm of the good ole U. S. And A. or commonly referred to as InQTel ie the CIA! Why? The CIA isn’t legally allowed to spy on American citizens so what’s the point? Data, like gold can be bartered and I’m sure that MI6 has the same arrangement locally as well but nothing in their (TOS, joking) precludes then with sharing and there by having everything you have ever done online stored in a data facility in Utah for future use against you for something. You can hide (as I’ve tried flying under the radar) but we’ve all been swept into the matrix for dicks like this to buy Hawaiian Islands. I can’t wait to see the State foreclose!
In reply to … by BennyBoy
Facebook an Empire of Fraud
the engine of massive click fakery:
fake clicks, fake users, fake sales -
the poster child of a fake economy.
In America all data are juiced,
every minute you are being scammed.
Americans are easily rolled by smart people.
In reply to … by BennyBoy
Benny boy, big data has no value if they can't track and send your advertising. Advertising is also to blame for tracking. Wealthy tech savvy people have opted out of advertising with adblocking and Netflix.
Nobody trusts you Zuck and nobody trusts politicians to control the digital ad monopolies.
Whoever controls the browser controls the money. The citizens are the only hope of destroying the digtal advertising tracking censoring goobook monopolies.
Every citizen needs to download brave browser or similar adblocker immediately.
Brave blocks advertising malware and tracking by DEFAULT on any device and operating system rendering digital advertising model useless.
So simple grandma can use it.
If there digital surveillance advertising goobook monopolies continue to sell my data without my consent and won't share the profits with me then I will continue my daily march to inform each citizen to use brave browser.
Most citizens have no idea there is a mobile adblocker that works on any device.
What is advertising worth if you can't serve me an ad, I don't see an ad and you can't track me while I'm browsing.
John Legere @tmobile please offer a data plan that blocks all tracking and advertising at the mobile network level. I will pay extra for this offering and if you offered this you would grab the entire mobile market.
Cheers,
Pigpen
In reply to … by BennyBoy
Exactly. Google, Facebook, YouTube.....they're all the same and anyone who claims they didn't know that their "data" was being sought and sold is either a dumbass or a maroon.
In reply to bhaahaaa ... as if no one… by pc_babe
I like how these assholes act like it was a "mistake"
In reply to Exactly. Google, Facebook,… by Fishthatlived
The 'mistake' is that they were caught. That was not supposed to happen.
In reply to I like how these assholes… by XqWretch
Geeee, just like Hillary?
In reply to The 'mistake' is that they… by HowdyDoody
they are scrambling to hire Ma Anand Sheela; I hear she's available and would fit right in with the culture.
In reply to Exactly. Google, Facebook,… by Fishthatlived
What you have to think about, is what is behind this sudden disclosure about FB disclosing personally identifying information.
my guess is TPTB want everyone to shift to a new platform, say 'Instagram' or 'Twitter' where there is some sort of new surveillance technology they want to employ...
just like the sham FBI lawsuit against Apple where they said they couldnt crack the iPhone and then it turns out every single fucking integrated circuit chip has a wide open back door left open by the fucking NSA.
'Gee everybody, your data isn't secure on Facebook, you need a new Facebook app or go to 'this' platform...
just more gaslighting
In reply to Exactly. Google, Facebook,… by Fishthatlived
can FB please roll over and die? No. and it is not because of all the older people who still use it, it is because it is such a great surveillance tool. even if it lost money, the intelligence operations would subsidize it to continue culling.
In reply to bhaahaaa ... as if no one… by pc_babe
That is right. Obama knew.
In reply to bhaahaaa ... as if no one… by pc_babe
May it rest in pieces
Mark needs more data, go post something, you lazy data producers!
Then consume your feed so Mark can make billions off your dumb ass.
In reply to May it rest in pieces by Al Gophilia
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don't know why.
Zuck: They "trust me"
Zuck: Dumb fucks
In reply to … by BennyBoy
The above has been available online for many years. I first saw it in a wired.com article.
Schadenfreude, it's what's for breakfast.
In reply to Zuck: Yeah so if you ever… by Max Cynical
... or rust in peace.
In reply to May it rest in pieces by Al Gophilia
Pagination