Bernie Sanders Is Most Likely Candidate To Take On Trump In 2020

Not only is Bernie Sanders, Vermont Senator and former contender for the Democratic nomination, the most popular politician in America, but according to one recent poll, he’s seen as the most likely candidate to win the Democratic nomination to take on Trump in 2020.

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Since Hillary Clinton’s defeat, no clear leader has emerged to guide the Democratic party, which means the primary for the 2020 race will probably be hotly contested.

Data courtesy of PredictIt

The data are courtesy of PredictIt, which translates prediction market data into US cents, with the highest price signaling the most likely outcome at a given time. Sanders, who challenged Clinton for the nomination in 2016, is seen as the most likely nominee at 21 cents a share. California senator Kamala Harris is next at 17 cents, followed by Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren at 15 cents.

Three of the top-five potential candidates are women: New York senator Kirsten Gillibrand comes in fourth at 14 cents, just ahead of former vice president Joe Biden at 13 cents.

For what its worth, Sanders hasn’t ruled out running again in 2020 (though he’d be in his late 70s by then). This fall, he continued to fight for socialized medicine by releasing a bill calling for Medicare for all. The self-described Democratic Socialist has long advocated for a single payer health care system.

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Escrava Isaura Dame Ednas Possum Dec 30, 2017 2:48 AM

Let me show you how an indoctrination system works.

At the first comment, Keyser is the indoctrinated, meaning that accepts a set of beliefs and propaganda uncritically.

At the second comment, Pathak, is the opposite.

Keyser: Goodbye capitalism, hello socialism...

 

Siddharth Pathak: Forget about North Korea, and America. Let's talk about a Southern Indian province called Kerala, shall we?
It is one of the most densely populated areas in the country, but also its most developed. It leads the country in literacy rate which stands at 93%, lowest maternal mortality rate which is 1.3/1000. Life expectancy is at 75 years, which is again the highest in the country and is in the range of the developed world (for eg. USA has a life expectancy is 77 years), and leads the country in healthcare, and is the only state in the country that has a positive sex ratio (meaning more women than men). It has one of the least crime rates in the country as well.
Kerala is without a doubt one one of the most developed places in the Subcontinent.
But you know what the surprising thing is?
Out of the 58 years since the state's political existence, the Communist Party of India (yes India has Communist parties fielding for elections and no they haven't staged any "revolutions") has been in power for 30 years - slightly more than half.
Kerala has thrived and this has occurred despite it being ruled for 30 years by a Communistic entity. In fact it was the same Communist party that engineered the massive uptick in human development by implementing a set of policies in 1970s that are now called collectively as the Kerala model, pioneered by a left oriented socialist economist, K. N Raj. His views and policies have gone on to influence the creation of the Human Development Index (HDI) by Amartya Sen and Mahbub ul Haq. HDI is a far better way to compare distinct economies and countries in terms of development. It certainly is better than that arbitrary notion of "free markets".
I think the example of Kerala should prove conclusively of just how much of a parochial and meaningless that mainstream view is; that somehow socialistic societies are incapable of development. They are as capable as any other society based on any form of economic system.
There is an entire living, breathing section of the world out there that functions completely different from what the Chicago school economists would call ideal and preferable, and yet they keep managing to create huge amounts of development. Looking at some of the answers here, and elsewhere on Quora, and also at some of the comments by neoclassical economists themselves, I think it would be suffice to say that most of the critics of economic systems other than capitalism have absolutely no clue about what they are supposed to criticizing.
Look at beyond the stupid hyperbole of labels that media and a certain bunch of economists keep throwing around, and don't restrict yourself to absolute comparisons of economic systems, because it is meaningless.
EDIT- I realize that some of the readers might mistake this as a proof of the fact I am a supporter of the CPI or anyone of the different flavors of political communist models. I most certainly am not. However neither am I a "fan" of capitalism, socialism or anything. My personal belief is not to restrict myself into narrow mental constructs of labels. However my point here in my answer is to forcefully argue against this remnant of the Cold War which saw senseless comparisons of two different economic systems. No economic system is better or worse than other because economies are a living embodiment of human societies, which are extremely complex and thus it is nothing but hubris on our part when we try to come up with some parochial view about which one is better. Socialistic societies are equally capable of development, as are capitalistic societies. Both have their failures and advantages. I didn't talk about capitalism, because almost every person has heard the benefits of the system (thanks to those who treat it like a religion), but socialism is something which still remains taboo. Hence this answer was to give a small example to show how conventional models about socialism are so wrong.

 

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Bollixed Slipstream Dec 30, 2017 6:03 AM

From Wiki:

Kerala's economy depends on emigrants working in foreign countries, mainly in Arab states of the Persian Gulf, and remittances annually contribute more than a fifth of GSDP.[177] The state witnessed significant emigration during the Gulf Boom of the 1970s and early 1980s. In 2008, the Persian Gulf countries together had a Keralite population of more than 2.5 million, who sent home annually a sum of US$6.81 billion, which is the highest among Indian states and more than 15.13% of remittances to India in 2008.[178] In 2012, Kerala still received the highest remittances of all states: US$11.3 billion, which was nearly 16% of the US$71 billion remittances to the country.[179] In 2015, NRI deposits in Kerala have soared to over ₹1 lakh crore (US$16 billion), amounting to one-sixth of all the money deposited in NRI accounts, which comes to about ₹7 lakh crore (US$110 billion).[180] However, a study commissioned by the Kerala State Planning Board, suggested that the state look for other reliable sources of income, instead of relying on remittances to finance its expenditure.

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Escrava Isaura Bollixed Dec 30, 2017 6:47 AM

Thanks.

Now let’s assume that the numbers you posted and Pathak’s social structures interpretations of Kerala are correct.

So that goes to a critical point that can’t sink in within the conservatives: Window guidance, meaning there’s always some money come into that sector/locality/gdp, because it must too.

Even if Kerala was to have a conservative ‘free market nonsense’ that market will always need additional money to function, period……Unless Kerala was to have a population decline.  

 

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nmewn Escrava Isaura Dec 30, 2017 8:23 AM

Kerala is not a country Escrava, its a province of India, like Kalifornia or New York and fully one fifth of its economy comes from remittances of Indian workers in Arab lands.

If its Marxist government administration and home life is so fantastic why do these Indians flee to work overseas, for Arabs? ;-)

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Escrava Isaura nmewn Dec 30, 2017 8:53 AM

Because working for the Arab Jews, Saudi Arabia, and/or the Asia Jews, Japan, they get a better pay.

And that money is part of the window-guidance for that region. These offshore workers function very much like a central bank ‘third party’ for that region.

Window-guidance, meaning direct investment by the central banks into localities boosts their economies and living standards.

Alone they can’t grow, unless they print their own money.

Or, they have a different social structure that doesn’t rely on money.

  

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webmatex Dame Ednas Possum Dec 30, 2017 7:58 AM

2018? The BEST SHOT!
Many more "participants" will come in from the oppresive fiat cold of the central banking system to defend their privacy and wealth, to unite against a corrupt cancer which has infected generations with its debt and depravity.
But more precious than any BTC price will be the demand in the coming year by milions of citizens who will demand a BlockChain Voting system. Public distrust for Central Banking  is equaled only by their certainty that Voting Machines, lack of acountability and George Soros do not a fair election make.
BlockChainVote is available, cheap and guarantees fair and transparent elections right out of the box which is why Government will hate it. Voting Acountability. Who could object?
No pesky smart card or touch screen contracts for the "boys" .
No Hills Zombie Army.
No more shameless shenannigans and skullduggery EU elections and referendi.
Demand BlockChainVote Now and Clean the Swamp in 2018!
 

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sleigher Keyser Dec 29, 2017 9:56 PM

"after all, everyone is "special"..."

 

Not everyone...   White people are the cause of all the problems in our society today.  I mean, just look around.  White people spent generations/centuries working and advancing civilization and if they hadn't all those SJW's would have nothing to bitch about.  /s

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Atomic Nixon Keyser Dec 29, 2017 11:18 PM

Welcome to Canada!  How awful!  Just think of what you won't have anymore...

No bank collapses.  None during the Great Depression, not one.  Not one during the last unpleasantness.  You see, you Americans are far too Liberal with your banks.  You let them stay up late, gamble with other people's money, you don't even know who they're in bed with!  Now we believe in a nice Conservative banking system.  One with rules and regulations to rein in those crazy Wall-street cats, you dig?

Welcome to Canada!  We were run for a fair while by a REAL billionaire!  You know, a real one who could float a whole fleet of container ships past you, not a couple of tough steaks and shitty wine.  He, of course, supported our single payer health-care system being a Liberal and all.  Come to think of it... I seem to remember him being pretty much in line with Bernie on most things.  But that would make Bernie....

 

Boring!  I read his platform and it really doesn't excite me.  Where's the feeding bankers to lions during half-time on Sundays?  In these days of waning empire, I demand blood-sport!  Ah Canada, my lovely socialist hell-hole, where there are twice as many small business owners per capita than the U.S. for some reason (it's the health-care).  What a perfect place to watch... well... please don't burn it ALL down... we'd like to pick up some of the pieces.  ;)

 

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IridiumRebel Atomic Nixon Dec 29, 2017 11:30 PM

Ah the “Canada is great!” play....

We have 330 million to your 25 million. What works for you don’t float for us sans the banking style. I agree there. Talk to us when you have a Shitcago, Baltimoribund and San Fagcisco sucking your coffers dry. 

 

Mae need a nice collapse unfortunately. That way our “world police” days will end. Canada doesn’t police the world.

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neversink Atomic Nixon Dec 30, 2017 2:03 AM

except you Canadians are brainwashed that there is no terrorism in Canada. If you tell the truth about Islamic jihad, you can go to jail for insulting a Muslim due to your idiotic hate-speech laws. But if an Imam shouts kill the Jews, kill the infidels -- nothing happens to him. After all you would be stepping on his religious freedom to stop his religious hate. 

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Sid Davis Keyser Dec 30, 2017 1:43 AM

The most brainwashed generation in history also.

Promise government handouts and feed them some Social Justice bullshit, and they would even vote for Hitler reincarnated. They know nothing of the hundred million or so working class people murdered by their own Socialist rulers in the last 100 years, and if they do, they are arrogant and insane enough to believe that someone of whom they approved would do differently.

These are seriously disturbed minds, who out of envy, hate people more successful than themselves. Half of them think socialism is better than freedom.

 

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