Bernd
04/23/2020 (Thu) 21:28:32
No.36203
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04/23/2020 (Thu) 21:28:32
No.36203
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>>36192
>>36193
>t. FSB
>>36198
>Nod really. Chinese emperor Daoguang Emperor or Prince Zhi of the First Rank 智親王 decided to ban opium around 1729 because it was harming his citizens and was embarrassing him seeing people of the royal court being addicted to it. England then decided to invade since Opium was around 20 percent of the British Empire's revenue at that time. It wasn't just because they wouldn't trade with India. They traded with multiple countries. They just decided that they wanted to be a healthy society instead. You can read it all here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium#Prohibition_and_conflict_in_China
The emperor declined to buy from India before the opium trade started, but the royal court was addicted to Indian opium. It was both for health reasons and for opposing the British.
>But dude that was done by rebels. They only supported the Boxers because they lost so much freedom and strength as a nation after they lost the 2nd Opium war. They were popular because the Chinese thought they could get rid of "Western imperialism". Now, I don't agree with them at all, but that's just what I gathered researching the subject.
It was Han Chinese rebels, many of whom were within the government.
>That was done as a reaction to the incompetence and general hatred they had for the ruling class at that time
But the Wuchang rebellion came from within the ruling class.
>They've been invaded and have had their rulers assimilate themselves dozens of times though. Nothing out of the usual actually
The Manchu emperors weren't really assimilated though. They wore Manchu dress, literally enforced a Manchu hairstyle among Han Chinese, had Manchu titles, considered themselves Manchu, even the royalist battle in Peking during the Wuchang rebellion was called the "Manchu restoration". There were massive massacres of Manchus by Han Chinese and Hui Muslims after the Wuchang rebellion.
Again, the Qing dynasty was basically a Manchu empire that ruled China, Mongolia, Xinjiang and Tibet.
>>36199
>literal medieval gear
The Ming dynasty used breechloaders in the 16th century, and by the time of the Boxer rebellion, the Qing even had ironclads from trading with the non-British Europeans.
>>36193
>t. FSB
>>36198
>Nod really. Chinese emperor Daoguang Emperor or Prince Zhi of the First Rank 智親王 decided to ban opium around 1729 because it was harming his citizens and was embarrassing him seeing people of the royal court being addicted to it. England then decided to invade since Opium was around 20 percent of the British Empire's revenue at that time. It wasn't just because they wouldn't trade with India. They traded with multiple countries. They just decided that they wanted to be a healthy society instead. You can read it all here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium#Prohibition_and_conflict_in_China
The emperor declined to buy from India before the opium trade started, but the royal court was addicted to Indian opium. It was both for health reasons and for opposing the British.
>But dude that was done by rebels. They only supported the Boxers because they lost so much freedom and strength as a nation after they lost the 2nd Opium war. They were popular because the Chinese thought they could get rid of "Western imperialism". Now, I don't agree with them at all, but that's just what I gathered researching the subject.
It was Han Chinese rebels, many of whom were within the government.
>That was done as a reaction to the incompetence and general hatred they had for the ruling class at that time
But the Wuchang rebellion came from within the ruling class.
>They've been invaded and have had their rulers assimilate themselves dozens of times though. Nothing out of the usual actually
The Manchu emperors weren't really assimilated though. They wore Manchu dress, literally enforced a Manchu hairstyle among Han Chinese, had Manchu titles, considered themselves Manchu, even the royalist battle in Peking during the Wuchang rebellion was called the "Manchu restoration". There were massive massacres of Manchus by Han Chinese and Hui Muslims after the Wuchang rebellion.
Again, the Qing dynasty was basically a Manchu empire that ruled China, Mongolia, Xinjiang and Tibet.
>>36199
>literal medieval gear
The Ming dynasty used breechloaders in the 16th century, and by the time of the Boxer rebellion, the Qing even had ironclads from trading with the non-British Europeans.