Bernd
01/16/2021 (Sat) 21:07:28
No.42087
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01/16/2021 (Sat) 21:07:28
No.42087
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>>42038
I read this one, I reply before I forget.
First thing first, which I already referred to. I didn't suggest they went there to execute a coup. I was trying to figure out situations where those guns could came in handy - you supposed a scenario with tens of thousands of people with a good fraction armed -, and ruled out every possibility because they aren't possible.
Back to the first part of your post.
Who even organizes these maga demonstrations? Here only parties and trade unions can put large amount of people onto the streets, up to about 200 thousand people. Well only right wing ones could from the parties, organizing transports from the country to Budapest, party leaders giving speech at the Parliament or on the most important squares with enough space for that many people. This makes me question if spontaneously that many people could gather without someone - like Trump - waiting them out in the field. But Trump do no such things except when they organize campaign for the election, and it does not seem that the Republican party would do anything.
>Trump Anomaly
Was that an anomaly really? Maybe a bit ridiculous in his communications both spoken and in tweets (which is an absolute new way of making statements, essentially he is a pioneer in this), but all in all I think as far as presidents go was he really stood out in an irregular way? Maybe crossing to North Korea, talking with the most recent Kim in person is a rare thing, but not out of the place as far as the system goes.
>how imbricated the corporate powers are into the state apparatus of the USA.
Actually I'm a bit shitting meself from the Big Five these days. If they would embargo a country, they could paralyze one. People, businesses, and even the state government relies on their various services heavily. Mail, file sharing, various communications, phones, payments, stores... they could hinder work, isolate people from each other, organizations similarly, shut down computers (MS could block logging in on Win10 or maybe even earlier versions). Government bureaucrats share documents, even state secrets via their services. Heh tens of thousands of teenagers would go bonkers they can't poke at their phones all day. All the private crap they know about people (who themselves exposed themselves to them) too. They essentially could shut down Hungary. And I bet even larger countries, or the whole EU, or the US itself. They are like public utility companies without even the pretense of public control.
I read this one, I reply before I forget.
First thing first, which I already referred to. I didn't suggest they went there to execute a coup. I was trying to figure out situations where those guns could came in handy - you supposed a scenario with tens of thousands of people with a good fraction armed -, and ruled out every possibility because they aren't possible.
Back to the first part of your post.
Who even organizes these maga demonstrations? Here only parties and trade unions can put large amount of people onto the streets, up to about 200 thousand people. Well only right wing ones could from the parties, organizing transports from the country to Budapest, party leaders giving speech at the Parliament or on the most important squares with enough space for that many people. This makes me question if spontaneously that many people could gather without someone - like Trump - waiting them out in the field. But Trump do no such things except when they organize campaign for the election, and it does not seem that the Republican party would do anything.
>Trump Anomaly
Was that an anomaly really? Maybe a bit ridiculous in his communications both spoken and in tweets (which is an absolute new way of making statements, essentially he is a pioneer in this), but all in all I think as far as presidents go was he really stood out in an irregular way? Maybe crossing to North Korea, talking with the most recent Kim in person is a rare thing, but not out of the place as far as the system goes.
>how imbricated the corporate powers are into the state apparatus of the USA.
Actually I'm a bit shitting meself from the Big Five these days. If they would embargo a country, they could paralyze one. People, businesses, and even the state government relies on their various services heavily. Mail, file sharing, various communications, phones, payments, stores... they could hinder work, isolate people from each other, organizations similarly, shut down computers (MS could block logging in on Win10 or maybe even earlier versions). Government bureaucrats share documents, even state secrets via their services. Heh tens of thousands of teenagers would go bonkers they can't poke at their phones all day. All the private crap they know about people (who themselves exposed themselves to them) too. They essentially could shut down Hungary. And I bet even larger countries, or the whole EU, or the US itself. They are like public utility companies without even the pretense of public control.