Bernd
02/18/2023 (Sat) 18:53
No.49840
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Well, he says the Ukro-Russian war can go on for years. And the West entered the war.
He promises more Hungarian agricultural products. Food chiefly. Will see. The competition of Western farmers (heavily subsidized) is strong. I heard stooges of the Orbán and co. bought up lotsa land. I guess they want to profit from those.
They wanna develop Eastern Hungary. Building bridges infrastructure, helping industrial areas. Will need more power plants so they want to build more - he says if Brussels won't help in this, someone else will! Very mysterious. Maybe Chinese belt and road? Or someone from along that road?
Promised more family centric measures. For now nothing concrete.
Still talks about we have to stay out of the war. He says it will be hard because in the EU and the NATO, and there everyone wants the war.
Said Russia attacked Ukraine, and we let the Ukrainian refugees in. The war isn't fought between good and bad, but a war of the Slavic countries. We recognize the right of Ukraine to defend herself. We won't give weapons, and even money sparingly. But we give humanitarian aid. We also vote against gas, oil, and nuclear sanctions. Won't break relations with Russia. All these are goes against our national interests - which ourselves decide as a sovereign nation.
He says Russia is not a threat the security of Europe, only with nuclear capabilities but the war does not lowers that particular threat, but raises it. He says the war showed us, that Russia won't have a chance against NATO in a regular war. We understand that the Ukrainians wants us to believe that Russians would only stop at the Atlantic shores, but we don't swallow this hook. The Russian army is not capable of attacking the NATO, and for a long while it won't be able either. I tend to agree with this but I see the point of Colonel Reisner that if we underestimate Russia's capability to change, adapt, and grow, we can have a very uncomfortable surprise. Si vis pacem, para bellum.
We suggest again the organization of a common EU army. Well if EU wants to be a power on her own right, she needs it. It goes against US interest tho. I think Orbán and Macron has closer cooperation than anyone would believe.
He says we also want a buffer between Hungary and Russia, as wide as possible, a sovereign Ukraine. And this can only be done with cease fire and talks right now. I do agree that bordering Russia is not good for us. And even less good if Russia has a foothold within the Carpathian basin. We need Karpátalja/Zakrpatia, and beyond that we need Ukraine. Or Poland if she needs anything, no? :^)