Bernd
06/21/2023 (Wed) 16:56
No.50480
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06/21/2023 (Wed) 16:56
No.50480
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>>50477
Tomboys aren't hated by their fathers for being tomboys, that's absurd and many tomboys are daddies girls as well.
Mostly I agree about daddies girls though, they have higher self esteem due to their father pampering them and their adoration of their father causes them to have higher standards in men, though the mother is not just a background item.
I would not assume that they had quality father daughter time, as they are deities and he is Zeus. Also she was born from Zeus's head already fully grown and armed.
Her occupation and character isn't really manly, in many ways that's the whole point. There are two War Gods, Ares could be considered to be a manly war God whereas Athena is a feminine one.
And daddies girls aren't manly or feminine, there are those that hunt with their dad but also daddies little princesses that don't do anything even vaguely masculine.
There simply isn't that much of a strong relationship between Athena and Zeus, she is not a daddies girl any more than any other girl is.
I don't care if she is a feminist or not and I did not notice anything political about the book, and for the record I also strongly disagree with Freud.
There is a tendency, particularly in psychology, to create the ideas that support your own views first and then to look for any scraps of an argument that might support that later, whilst ignoring anything that goes against it and ignoring context as well. In addition to that psychology is prone to feel good ideas and stories that make people feel special rather than any kind of actual truth. That's why she labelled the book, Goddess in every Woman in the first place. If those archetypes were independent of association with Goddesses most of my problems with that book would be gone. Maybe, thinking on that I still have other issues with it. My first thought was that the archetype of hard-working career driven woman with strong relationship with her father is a real archetype but then plenty of daddies girls don't work at all and plenty of women that have strong work ethics don't have strong relations with their fathers. So even then its not really very useful. So then what's left? That women with strong work ethics exist? Well that should be obvious, we don't need a book to tell us that.
Tomboys aren't hated by their fathers for being tomboys, that's absurd and many tomboys are daddies girls as well.
Mostly I agree about daddies girls though, they have higher self esteem due to their father pampering them and their adoration of their father causes them to have higher standards in men, though the mother is not just a background item.
I would not assume that they had quality father daughter time, as they are deities and he is Zeus. Also she was born from Zeus's head already fully grown and armed.
Her occupation and character isn't really manly, in many ways that's the whole point. There are two War Gods, Ares could be considered to be a manly war God whereas Athena is a feminine one.
And daddies girls aren't manly or feminine, there are those that hunt with their dad but also daddies little princesses that don't do anything even vaguely masculine.
There simply isn't that much of a strong relationship between Athena and Zeus, she is not a daddies girl any more than any other girl is.
I don't care if she is a feminist or not and I did not notice anything political about the book, and for the record I also strongly disagree with Freud.
There is a tendency, particularly in psychology, to create the ideas that support your own views first and then to look for any scraps of an argument that might support that later, whilst ignoring anything that goes against it and ignoring context as well. In addition to that psychology is prone to feel good ideas and stories that make people feel special rather than any kind of actual truth. That's why she labelled the book, Goddess in every Woman in the first place. If those archetypes were independent of association with Goddesses most of my problems with that book would be gone. Maybe, thinking on that I still have other issues with it. My first thought was that the archetype of hard-working career driven woman with strong relationship with her father is a real archetype but then plenty of daddies girls don't work at all and plenty of women that have strong work ethics don't have strong relations with their fathers. So even then its not really very useful. So then what's left? That women with strong work ethics exist? Well that should be obvious, we don't need a book to tell us that.