Bernd
02/01/2024 (Thu) 19:26
No.51597
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02/01/2024 (Thu) 19:26
No.51597
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>EU isn't a global power because EU is an international economic organization (bit similarly to BRICS, except more demanding, has to give up part all the parts that matter of sovereignty).
More like a surpranational but whatever.
The reason EU won't be a super power is not forming a state rather they don't have what it takes to do so, I mean when you go outside touch grass, vulgarly speaking, nobody thinks EU as a possible challenger, so it's a circlejerk, a manufactured narrative.
Russia didn't need to join EU to work a deal rather needed concessions depending on what they need(hint, it's not land but Putin thinks otherwise).
> As I heard Turkey doesn't really wanna join anymore. Georgia and Moldova is in, perhaps Bosnia too. What will be left from Ukraine will be crammed in (well at least how things stand at the moment).
Half of the people from both seculars and Erdo crowd never wanted to join since 2000's. This intensified after 2013 Gezi Parkı revolt and refugee crisis as EU signed a deal with Erdoğan that any leader with a spine never accept, basically using the country as dumping ground for pennies. You guys are slow, too many guys can't catch up with events happened 10 years ago or gold fish memory but so sure about their opinions, not finger pointing you ofc.
>. The parastate Kosovo. Norway and Switzerland are members in every way that matters except in name (so no voting rights).
So they're not members and it's beneficial for them except being a decider which doesn't make sense due to low represanter number in EU parliament. Switzerland keeps their stuff intact, no loss of sovereignity and Norway keeps their fishing sector alive and keeps their oil money for themselves.
I doubt hush hush attempts towards federal state and increasing EU authority will work due to domestic problems. Pinning every EU-sceptic opinion to pro-Russian shills or to other scapegoats will get old quickly. Blaming "the fifth column" and "dem foreigners out there to get you" is a classic autocrat playbook and it's nothing but a lose-lose for EU countries if they adapt it.
>EU isn't a global power because EU is an international economic organization (bit similarly to BRICS, except more demanding, has to give up part all the parts that matter of sovereignty).
More like a surpranational but whatever.
The reason EU won't be a super power is not forming a state rather they don't have what it takes to do so, I mean when you go outside touch grass, vulgarly speaking, nobody thinks EU as a possible challenger, so it's a circlejerk, a manufactured narrative.
Russia didn't need to join EU to work a deal rather needed concessions depending on what they need(hint, it's not land but Putin thinks otherwise).
> As I heard Turkey doesn't really wanna join anymore. Georgia and Moldova is in, perhaps Bosnia too. What will be left from Ukraine will be crammed in (well at least how things stand at the moment).
Half of the people from both seculars and Erdo crowd never wanted to join since 2000's. This intensified after 2013 Gezi Parkı revolt and refugee crisis as EU signed a deal with Erdoğan that any leader with a spine never accept, basically using the country as dumping ground for pennies. You guys are slow, too many guys can't catch up with events happened 10 years ago or gold fish memory but so sure about their opinions, not finger pointing you ofc.
>. The parastate Kosovo. Norway and Switzerland are members in every way that matters except in name (so no voting rights).
So they're not members and it's beneficial for them except being a decider which doesn't make sense due to low represanter number in EU parliament. Switzerland keeps their stuff intact, no loss of sovereignity and Norway keeps their fishing sector alive and keeps their oil money for themselves.
I doubt hush hush attempts towards federal state and increasing EU authority will work due to domestic problems. Pinning every EU-sceptic opinion to pro-Russian shills or to other scapegoats will get old quickly. Blaming "the fifth column" and "dem foreigners out there to get you" is a classic autocrat playbook and it's nothing but a lose-lose for EU countries if they adapt it.