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>Show me a tupper that self-forces visualization-related stuff.

Bruh, we've been doing that since 2018. Like what are you even talking about? There's a disconnect here. I had to pull poor Ren out of this convo bc bruh.

>There's simply stuff you can't do on your own no matter how independent.

Smh we have no idea what we're missing here, you're saying something that sounds wrong. That's the nicest way I can put it.

[Autumn] sorry, she strong armed me.