>>31181 I think that with with >The basic intention of those who organize these isn't to clash with the police but it always escalates to that, and ends the same. You are trying to compare These protests with the ones in HK, well, there are two diferent cases, in HK the protestor's intention is to literally fuck the Chineese goverment by destroying stuff. And the strategy that's happening in Catalonia is mostly to make sound in order to make the European nations react, while we can argue if this is useful or not, this is the strategy that has been followed, The cases where the protestors burn trash cans is mostly to stop the police from beating them. Besides, the police is disguising as protestors and breaking stuff in order to make the protestors look violent. > both parties use it for the same, showing the brutality of the other. Again, most of the protests are peaceful and the shit only goes down when the police starts attaking them, and I don't say it because of the "porpaganda" I am stating facts. Also when shit goes down the protestors are only burning trash cans, while the police is leaving people without one eye and using ilegal arms, the protestors are even kicking people out if they are acting to violent (don't have vid but I was there multiple times and have seen it happen) >For me all these protests for whatever seems pointless, maybe I could rationalize that this way people can really show what problems they feel important, but to be honest even if couple of hundred thousands people go to the street to march around... they still a minority in most cases, noone can say that "here, this is how the majority feels". Maybe if they would collect signatures and show it into the faces of politicians to do something (since the protestors don't want to actually do anything really) that would worth more effort. These protests are making independentism grow, before it was like 48% of people who supported independence, but now its like 58% so there's that