Fun facts about the election of Frau von der Leyen:
1. she was the only candidate to chose from, so if she had been rejected then, I dunno.
2. She's also implicated in covid vaccince scandal, where she signed sketchy deals with manufacturers. Basically a corruption case.
3. And she was also investigated in 2019 for a domestic corruption case where she handed out contracts to her cronies as a German defense minister.
The EU is in good hands.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/07/17/von-der-leyen-commission-loses-vaccines-contracts-transparency-case-on-eve-of-crucial-vote
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/corruption-scandal-hangs-over-eu-president-ursula-von-der-leyen-33871

Okay I haven't read the details of these articles, this is a quick post and I'm tired.

>>52223
Have to add, that this system where they have only one candidate for the presidency is called Spitzenkandidat in beautiful German. The party or party coalition which gained the majority nominates a candidate and the EU parliament votes on this person.
What I dunno if they don't accept (slim chance since that person is the majority candidate, but still there is a chance).

>>52223
It looks like she keeps her old job and it's business as usual then.

She was also the minister of Defence during the G36 affair which led to the rifle being replaced by the HK416(though that happened after she left).

>>52226
>that happened after she left
She picked the people she wanted to get the dough, she had her own share, she could left the job of actually doing the thing to others.

>>52232
Well it was to be expected. After all, if Biden were elected for a second term he would just get worse as he continues to age.

I don't know that she is much of a better candidate really. I heard that people actually wanted somebody else entirely but due to how campaign funding works that would be difficult because all donations are to the Biden-Harris Campaign so there would be complications transferring it to a new candidate. Plus replacing her would be a bad look when she is Vice President, particularly as she is half black, half Indian and a woman, so dropping her would offend those demographics.

So it looks like Trump will be president.

>>52233
Trump has already been a president before, so I mean it looks like Trump will be president again.

>>52233
Oh now that he stepped down turns out he has no covid and can return to the White House.
They detained and threatened him. Infa 100%.

One thing I heard. Here's this:
https://democrats.org/who-we-are/
https://democrats.org/2024-delegate-selection-process/
>The Democratic National Committee is committed to electing Democrats everywhere – from the school board to the Oval Office.
They have a set of rules how these officials can be nominated.
There are four documents on the second link that:
>govern the Party’s Delegate Selection process and National Convention.
Including the President of the US.
What I heard, that for a new nominate they should have kept at least some part of the procedure, "at least a hearing", but they just switched Biden - whom the delegates legally pledged to - with Harris and the delegates declared they all supporting her.
Really shows that it is not a democratic process, there is a clique that can just say:
>today you support X
<YES WE DO!
>tomorrow you support Y
<YES WE DO!

Listening what Orbán is talking about at Tusványfürdő, like last year >>50735, this is the 33rd occasion for him.
Hilarious, he started with:
>now i'm gonna redpill you
Literally citing Matrix, explaining the blue pill, red pill metaphor. He says for us the Russo-Ukrainian war is the red pill.
I won't write stuff like last year, I don't think I have time to listen the whole thing anyway. Perhaps tomorrow or next week.
I want to note one thing he said, it's fairly at the start. He say Europe's engine was the Paris-Berlin axis, now this got irrelevant, and there is a new one: London-Warsaw-Kiev-Balitcs-Scandinavia. If we remember what Szálasi said about how the Anglos fight against Europe: they build clients on the shores and periphery of Europe and they use those to defeat the stronger states on the continent. If I put together the two thought, I can make sense of it.

Latest scandal: Hungary is causing a spying crisis with the so called National Cards

Recently our govt. added the Russian Federation and Republic of Belarus to the list of countries whomster citizens can apply for "National Card"s. This, according to a Hungarian "security expert" and some of the members of the European Parliament and the European Commission (which is the council of the head of states), is a huge security issue, which endangers the Schengen area countries, by letting in Russian spies running free. Or at least that it offers a legal loophole for people whomster on the list of sanctioned individuals due to the Russian war on the Ukraine.

I can't recall hearing this National Card before that - I probably had just did not pay much mind to it - and from the news it's not easy to solve that is that actually. So I tried to dive in.
The law that regulates this thing is the 2023/XC government statute, and is about the "entry and residence of the citizens of third countries".
>third countries
This is all the countries which aren't: Hungary and European Economic Area countries. The statute is also relevant to stateless, fugitive persons.
Now this is all the regulations about the topic, and the National Cards is only a part of it, called: "residence of specified third countries". Originally this part was only relevant for Serbian and Ukrainian nationals, but recently it was extended to a number of countries: Bosnia Horsevagina, North Monkeydonia, Moldova, Monteneger, along with Belarus and Russia - the latter two sparking the controversy.
Only those can get National Cards who come to do prearranged work, has contracts, or do some other business that constitute as work. The length of stay is at least 90 days but not more than 2 years. It can be extended by 3 years (any amount of times).
Needed:
- valid passport;
- documents that prove employment and place of stay;
- money that cover the cost of moving to another country or returning to home country;
- proof of health insurance;
- document that verifies the purpose of the entry;
Also have to pay some amount of fee.
So basically not everyone can get it, and there is some screening.
How is it differ from regular entry and residence? Not by much.
1. the aforementioned extension, for "regular third country citizens" who can also only apply for work can extend their time by 1 year;
2. "regulars" can't apply for entry and residence for different reasons (such as studies) while at Hungary (I assume they have to return and apply at the embassy or something), the National Card can only requested in the country;
3. the National Card allows them to bring their family.
That's it.
So if Russia or Belarus want to send spies they can do however they want. National Cards won't make them James Bond.

Some of our politicians in the EU Parliament gave a press conference, talking about the issue.
They told, among other things, that at the moment 720K Russians, and 85K Belorussians live in the EU legally.
They stated that in the first month (august) of the National Card extension to the two countries, 14 people applied for it.
Despite they were asked they did not specify what work that 14 people are doing.

Couple of things to post.
First let's talk about the Draghi-report.
Mario Draghi was PM of Italy briefly (for over a year, Meloni replaced him) and was the prez of the European Central Bank. Our dear Ursula asked him to write something that supports the current school of thought that collapses Europe plans to increase Europe's competitiveness.
His report is 400 pages, not that long, but frankly, there are many better things to read, including Adam Smith's wealth of nations. However news sources are inadequate, I found.

Shittiest one:
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-mario-draghi-report-unleashed-eurozone-debt-crisis-ecb-competition-investment/
>here are 5 points, all about investing more

This one crowns the previous turdcake:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/business/europe-economy-competitiveness.html
Actual quote:
>Mr. Draghi’s report was short on details about the source of the enormous investment required to reverse Europe’s economic decline.
>“Where is the money going to come from?” Ms. van Rij said.
Good question.
Good snippet:
>Cheap Russian gas is no longer available, and energy prices have soared. Those prices have come off their peak, but European companies still pay two to three times more for electricity than U.S. companies do
>the report found
Literally what Orbán is saying for years now, Jesus fucking Christ. Situation sucks in Europe because no source of cheap energy.
But this article actually lists some suggestions from the Report:
- shared energy grid
- joint military procurement
- advanced training programs for workers
All right. It also notes that:
>the bloc depends on a handful of suppliers like China for critical raw materials
so have to make:
>preferential trade agreements and investment in countries that could serve as alternate suppliers.
And he finds problems in "bureaucracy" but wants more centralization which means more bureaucracy...:
>European countries to be more coordinated
>barriers such as costly regulation can be burdensome
>Far-right parties that have been hostile to some of the European Union’s initiatives and wary of extending more power to Brussels
>Many of Mr. Draghi’s proposals would require unanimous consent from member states

This Hungarian article (of the opposition media) says the Fidesz reads the report, but they don't like it. Complements the NY Times article, makes the points above clearer.
https://hvg.hu/eurologus/20240909_versenykepesseg_draghi
Basically this article outright says have to close down the market in front of Chinese products see Chinese investments on the Hungary, battery factories. Say good bye to cheap Russian energy see Hungarian gas and oil imports. EU should give up unanimous voting to force through the decisions which some countries don't want to vote in see the muh Hungarian veto cries in past years.
Basically these are from the reports the rest of the article is various chime ins from unrelated people.

So all this bs boils down to this:
Europe has no energy and raw mats, so production is expensive, European products and companies are not competitive. With "AI industry" emerging energy demands grow exponentially. Go Green policies make everything more expensive. Can't allow China to profit because China is bad competitor of US. Can't allow Russia to profit because Russia is bad competitor of US. Expose tariff in Chinese products and sanction Russia. Africa could be a nice source except Europe (France) is getting kicked out by US, China, and Russia. This leaves US as supplier, and an insecure Middle East for energy. South America can serve raw resources, but that's basically buying from US (related topic: Monroe doctrine).
So basically Europe will turn into a market for the US, a colony, where they pump the wealth from.
What would actually help: cooperate with Russia. Russia means cheap energy and returning to Africa cheap resources, and investing there would open up markets.
What will most definitely not help: anything Draghi proposes whatever he actually wrote.

>>52396
Private investors won't invest in Europe if Europe is in decline.
Europe won't be be able to invest massive amounts through public means either, given that most of those nations are in too much debt as it is, though Germany is more financially responsible than most of the others and so they have some room to move in that regard.

Energy in Europe is a huge issue and nobody in Europe seems to have a realistic long term plan to address it.

The west as a whole is worried about China's dominance in rare earths and solar panels. Australia benefits from that to a degree as we have rare earths we just aren't a major miner or processor of many of them, but that's going to change.

European industry is being strangled by China so tariffs are probably necessary anyway Electric cars are a good example of this. But the issue there is that the US is also a huge industrial power and also competes with Europe(and might introduce tariffs on Europe as well).
But tariffs are a quadruple edged sword, yes they make Chinese goods less competitive but it will raise the price of imported inputs for European manufacturing(such as Chinese rare earths), it cuts off a huge Market to Europe(China) and it will cause inflation in some goods in the EU as the price of goods that are tariffed goes up.

Africa has a lot of potential of course but it's also Africa. Rare earths won't do Europe much good if they are in a jungle with no infrastructure in an area held by separatist warlords or a corrupt government(well it's Africa, all governments there are corrupt). It would still need money to set up such operations as well.

I just watched the US debate. All I can say is, bleh...

It was not really a debate, they would often ignore the questions that they were asked and instead they had their own talking points that they would try to shoehorn into their answers even when it was not relevant to the topic. These talking points are the same we have heard before, Trump talks about Immigration, Harris brings up project 2025. Neither of them had anything interesting to say and neither had any real policies.

The only thing of interest in this entire debate was that apparently Harris owns guns or at least a gun(she brought that up in response to Trump saying she wanted to ban them).

But still, I don't think either candidate did well but I don't think they did terribly either, there were no Biden moments this time. So I don't think this debate well affect the election much.

>>52399
Heh: >>>/qrbunker/145100
It's not like they didn't read everything from a teleprompter in the debate with Biden...
I bet the debate was just a marketing event for these earpieces.
Finally one instance played one video:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VgsC_aBquUE
Randomly clicked into the middle
>Viktor Orbán said
Kek.
I'm sure some of his voterbase likes to hear about Orbán and what he says about Trump, but I'm not sure if can win voters from the middle, those who aren't committed to either side. For voters on the other end, Orbán is literal Hitler.

>>52400
I think most Americans probably don't actually know what a Victor Orban is.

>>52402
I dunno, he was shilled by Tucker Carlson quite a few times.
But I bet much more Americans have 0 idea than who has.

Let's take a short look at the Orbán-government's tax policies.
In 2022 a government decree introduced a new type of tax which they call extra profit tax. They were saying that the due to the these years of crises actually resulted in profit for certain sectors of the economy, a profit that they not calculated with, so they'll take some of that.
Couple of days ago came to my attention that they are talking about this again, that the banks and insurance companies pocketed extra dough this year, so they'll have to pay the extra profit tax.
I don't know about the banks, but last year, 2023 February, our govt. issued another decree regulating insurances, giving an extra window for people to switch companies and make other insurance contracts, starting with 2024, in March-April.
So starting this year in the Fidesz-media for sure (perhaps on the other side too), there was a campaign of ads, infomertials, interviews with professionals about this opportunity - driving up attention, and demand for insurance and signing new contracts. With demand the price also got higher, and lo, insurance companies pocketed "extra profit".
And now our government, donning a Robin Hood cap, swoops in and takes the moneybags from the rich - seriously their communication very much paints this picture. Hilarious.

>>52436
I don't think profits should ever be punished unless there is some kind of unfair reason for them that is damaging the country. Like if a bank had a monopoly and that was why it's making more money then yes, maybe something should be done but even then it should not be taxed more, it should be broken up instead.

The problem with taxing profits is that you scare business and disincentivise investment.

>>52438
Their reasoning is something liek: the profit wasn't made by smart planning, but the crises, covid, war, whatnot, and it isn't in the calculation of those companies.
The opposition and "independent" opposition experts put forward criticism, but that's expected.
My problem in this particular case is that the unexpected "extra" profit is the result of the acts of the Fidesz government and Fidesz media. So they do tax the people essentially by making them spend on the service. It's like if they were made those companies collect the tax and then take a share from it.

It's time for a "The Jews" post.
Maybe this would be better in the news thread, but it really is politics.
For various reasons for about a year know I have the luck to listen to the radio. Radio radio, not net radio, so the selection is quite slim. When push comes to shove I'm find listening politics and news. But that's all Fidesz media, no opposition or independent news channels.
About a year ago happened the Hamas attack on Israel and these programs broadcasted sometimes have mentioned the "growing antisemitism over the globe especially in Western Europe and how concerned the Hungarian government about this" this goes hand in hand with the questioning of Brussel's and Western European countries' migration politics during the past year. Lately, about since the beeper attack, these voices are getting stronger. People are invited into the studio talking about the situation in Israel, the views of Israel, the woes of of the Jewish people. For example a Jewish journalist or diplomat (did not payed attention at the introduction, sorry) was telling to the listeners in perfect Hungarian how clever and resourceful was the Israeli secret services with the beeper attack, and that we shouldn't be worried about the possible Hungarian involvement and its consequences. Or we were told that 200 attacks against Jews happened in Germany that lead to physical confrontation.
Most recently they were criticizing western censorship practices, how they are enforcing hate speech filtering in the West. They found it very concerning that while they censor hate speech against LGBTQ movement, they don't censor anti-Semitic statements. They were outraged how Westerners don't include Jews among the chosen ones who shouldn't be criticized or talked bad things about.
Of course they did not use the word censorship.

One good think tho.
They mentioned, that basically the Western suggestion to avoid hate and atrocities is: "don't be a Jew, or at least hide your identity". They said this is absurd and unacceptable.
I agree with this. When will the time come when they say:
>just don't be German
>just don't be French
>just don't be Polish
>just don't be Hungarian
>...
This is really unacceptable.

>>52463
>about year know
*about year now

>>52463
>I'm find
*I'm fine
For fucks sake. I won't correct the rest. You know what I mean.

>>52463
I don't know how I feel about this kind of thing. This has been an issue here as well.
I think anti-Semitism is growing, the Green Party in Australia have said some pretty anti-Semitic things and they are far from far right. Both the far left and the far right seme to hate the Jews.

Maybe this make the Jews realise that Muslims and the left are not their friends and so maybe they will act differently and stop encouraging Muslim migration and the left.

The Mi Hazánk brings a very typical right radical form, with the 5-7%. These voters probably those who doesn't like the Jew-love of the Fidesz, and those who have struggles with the Gypsies. They won't ever get a real voice nowhere. But this 5% is about the same since the MIÉP (the first such party) was founded 1993. Jobbik had a growth when they dialed down the rhetoric and went softer, taking many voters with conservative tendencies and aversion of Fidesz. These now vote on the Tisza.
The DK hanging on is fantastic. There are still some people who prefer them. Pensioners? I dunno. I'm fairly sure young voters would rather pick KKP, Momentum, MMN, Greens, or LMP than them. But they are probably drift towards the Tisza instead.

And back to the TISZA Párt.
As I mentioned before I "get to" listen to the radio this year, and literally all is Fidesz propaganda. If it's about the opposition then it's Magyar Péter constantly. So much shit they pour onto him, that's hilarious. And really activates those braincells. They add to the hype. And if the Fidesz really "hates" someone, that makes those who hate the Fidesz support that person. It's the "Dirty Fred effect" - as I call it, based on a character of old Hungarian pulp fiction novels, where Dirty Fred (a kind of an antihero) used his own unpopularity to influence others to help someone whom he wanted to help. We could call this reverse psychology.
I believe the reason behind the hype around Magyar Péter is that the Fidesz wants to keep the opposition afloat, so they can keep up the appearance of democratic legitimacy. The previous opposition parties just couldn't keep their voterbase.
By how much this party is "controlled" as they say. I dunno. But the voters have real antipathy towards Fidesz.

US presidential election's gonna happen on next Tuesday. Finally ending the year long masturbation they call campaign. Then comes the tune titled The Election Was A Fraud after it - no matter who wins. Actually it was 4 year long campaign because they played that song in 2021 for a year, then in 2022 they had the midterm elections, which is another one year jerkoff, then they were warming up for the primaries for another year.
Among all this circlejerk Japan carried out a whole campaign just under two weeks, with the election on October 27th). Sure the governing party shot itself into the feet but still.
In 2021 the Liberal Democratic Party (the Jimintō) won the elections with quite the lead, although with an already dropping popularity (they gained power in 2012 the first time with Shinzo Abe, since then they had won each time, but with less seats at each elections).
The Jiminto has a 3 year cycle for its presidency, and the former defense minister, Shigeru Ishiba won in 2024 September. Starting from October he took over the seat of the Prime Minister from his predecessor Fumio Kishida. Thinking it's time to reinforce his position via a general election, where he could lead his party to victory, he announced a snap election. However the popularity of Jiminto is not so shiny due to the so called slush fund scandal (they funneled campaign funds into private bank accounts), and got less than half of the seats in the Japanese House of Representatives (the Japanese Parliament, the Kokkai, is bicameral). Now they are forced to govern from minority.
The biggest winner is the major opposition party the Constitutional Democratic Party (Rikken-minshutō) which got a whopping over 50 seats more than in previous election. However smaller parties emerged too, so now there are 9 parties in the legislature instead of the previous 5.

What are the implications?
Firstly not sure.
But.
The Far East might get volatile, with Best Korea's getting Russian support, and with the constant sabre rattling around Taiwan, god knows what will happen if the Ukraine war is nearing, or it gets finished. A strong, but at least fit to work Japanese legislation and government could mean a pillar of stability, but an indecisive one could prevent Japan from acting in time.
As for their inner politics, I dunno if they would better or worse, and with whom. Japan has its problems, but they live comfy and secure I think.

>>52538
It's hard to say what this will do as they still haven't formed a government yet I don't think. Ishiba is the best candidate to deal with the geopolitical situation, that's probably why his party picked him but at the same time because of the weak position of the LDP I think he will struggle to make decisive decisions if they have to be made, he would have to work with the minor parties to do that.

As for inner politics, I have no idea. I guess it will depend on what demands minor parties make of the LDP in order to form a government. It will means they won't be able to make any drastic changes though you would think.

Japan does alright. They are often attacked for their stagnating economy but that is complicated. Yes their GDP growth is slower than many other nations but their GDP growth per Capita is actually inline with most other OECD nations, it was fairly close to Australia before Covid and since then things have gone strange for both of us(well the whole world really but still).
The reason Japan's economy isn't growing is because of a lack of population growth whereas most of the growth of Australia's economy comes from Migrants. If you ignore that and look at wealth growth by the individual then we are similar. Though Australia is one of the richest nations on earth per capita so we are still richer than they are in that way.

Japan has problems with inflation but the whole world does. Though in Japan's case it's largely because of a depreciating yen, so it's a bit different. But the yen should go up once the US and the rest of the world lower interest rates enough.

Japan has massive debt too of course but they have low interests rates and the debt is held by the Japanese themselves, so it's not as big of an issue as the US in my opinion(the US spends more on interest on it's debt that it does on defence).

Japan has issues but they are structural, they have a declining and ageing population and there is nothing you can do about that other than import migrants which isn't really a long term solution and has it's own problems. So they have to learn to continue with a declining population(which we all should be learning to do instead of importing migrants).

But also we don't know what's going to happen in regards to Trump, China and trade wars and how that will hit Japan if Trump gets in. Australia should be fine, the USA would be dumb to put tariffs on us, even China rethought their attempts at that. But Japan is a direct competitor to the USA, China and the EU in many ways so a trade war could do interesting things...

>>52539
You are right. They are still forming the new government, probably negotiate with potential coalition partners.
>they have to learn to continue with a declining population(which we all should be learning to do instead of importing migrants).
So much this.

Finally Burgers are voting today. Or rather finish voting.
Not sure what will happen if they elect Trump. However I hear it that things will continue how they are going now if Harris gets to be the presidentess. I'm not sure about that too. Despite the obvious continuity it is a chance to approach things differently. The Cabinet will also be shuffled, new people can bring change of policies.
I do not believe Harris will get elected. She's even less WASP male than Obongo was. Is this the time for a female president yet? I doubt it.

Can't find the spurdo comic strip I wanted to post. Oh well.

First fucking article...
Listening Trump giving his victory speech at the moment. I'm still unsure what's gonna happen now. Ought to be interesting even if it won't be enjoyable. What the Biden administration did was just pure painful. Well at least we have this wonderful war tho, that's interesting even if it isn't enjoyable.

Here's the article itself, nothing much, just refreshing memories that Orbán is #1 Trump fan.
https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-pm-viktor-orban-donald-trump-win-us-elections-2024/
Anyway this win means some favors towards Orbán, and perhaps for Hungary too I don't think all the moves of Orbán is in the interest of the people and country, so I always have doubts. Surely it will be in the interest of Israel.
Well at least the Hungarian presidency of the EU might have a bit more weight, despite it ends on December 31 - and Trump only gets to be president from January 1st. The promise of future change will make EU officials think a bit. There is already a change in communication in the West think of Scholz and his hard facts, liek "Ukraine won't enter NATO" I assume those voices will strengthen.
End of the week (I think starting tomorrow) Hungary will host an EU summit thingy. Surely will be endorsements of Trump, and they are expecting the Georgian PM to be present - and as an unexpected visitor even perhaps Zelensky will come to Budapest.
Now this could be awkward, and communication will surely change in Kiev too. Towards Hungary as well, since at the moment Trump's little fav in the EU is Orbán.
And again my problem is if all these communication changes will actually translates to something good for our people. I dunno.

Trump is saying right now:
>promises were made, promises will be kept
Which means he'll do entirely something else, heh.

Trump has won by quite a bit it seems, he might even win the popular vote. It looks like the Republicans will get both the house and the senate too.

>>52546
At the moment I think he has over 51% of the popular votes.
And I assume the electoral ones will climb over 300. He got something 305 the like in 2016.
This isn't that high. Bush senior bagged over 400 electorates.

Thinking about Trump's 5 minutes gibberish about Elon Musk's rocket. Quite an Biden-esque moment.

It appears you can say "nigger" again. Also Im laughing at the fact that Kennedy got 600k votes despite telling people not to vote for him.

>>52548
Kennedy deserved more to be honest.

Trying to get the speech of Zelensky, but Piped doesn't allow filtering and ordering and whatnot.

Wtf. Videos of the arrivals are uploaded, the opening speech of Orbán is up there, Macron talking is up, but no Zelensky. Even the fugging sky news livestream cuts away when Orbán passes the round to Zelensky. What the actual fuck?
I can find articles with a handful of quotes of his speech tho.

Found a speech of Zelensky, but not the one I wanted to listen. And I won't listen this one either he talks in Ukrainian, no translation, subtitles or anything.

Thinking about what this Trump victory could mean to Hungary. Fidesz/govt media sells it as the next best thing ever, here's the Canaan, hallelujah, we win and all that.
I'm skeptical about this. Orbán likes to talk about how there is a struggle between "decoupling" and "connectivity" within the EU. Former means cutting off ties to certain countries, Russia, China for starter, but essentially could mean everyone who aligned to them. And connectivity means keeping relations and trade with them, not just have a closeted gay club within The West, but to be open to The Rest.
Sidenote: Orbán and co. likes to call the first solution as "globalist", while keeping up with global trade with everyone is not it in their books.
But back to the matter at hand. Trump promoting a trade war with Chiner, does not help with the connectivity as Orbán dreams it for us. And frankly "ending the war on the Ukraine" might also not pan out how expected. Will the trade be restored with Russia? Won't be purchasing cheap gas from them frowned upon? Trump was against the Nord Stream pipeline, I'm pretty sure he won't advocate for restoring it. He wants Europe to buy American gas, or from someone that suits to their foreign politics and economy.
Russia and China remains a competitor for the US, and this Putin's lapdog stuff is just US campaign propaganda.
On the other hand, now that a pal's gonna sit in the White House, we kinda have to dance more for their tune, at least drop the rhetoric of the "rebel" and naysayer.
I'm pretty sure there will be more support to Israel. Hungary and our govt has good relations with Israel, so I'm expecting more propaganda in the media (both Fidesz/govt and opposition) that licks that Heeb hiney shiny. And perhaps more active help in some form. I dunno about that usually there is 0 mentions about various cooperations and partnerships with Israel. Sometimes they show us a photo of Orbán and Netanyahu together.
Frankly all in all that Chinese angle will be the neuralgic point. They were building battery factory here, and perhaps electric car assembly plant. And there are old plans of the Belt and Road, like the railroad between Belgrade and Budapest. And whatnot (see the Chinese university and such).

>>52583
I know that people are saying it could have a negative impact on Australia. Tariffs on Australia are not such a big deal and probably will not happen but the tariffs on China would negatively affect Australia as they are our biggest trading partner and a slow Chinese economy would mean less demand for our resources which means less money for us but also means that there is less demand for the Australian dollar which would reduce the value of our currency and thus cause import costs to rise.
But then the PM has also said their may be opportunity, he said that if Trump starts scrapping funding for Green energy programmes then Australia is well positioned to capitalise on it and pick up some of these green energy industries and investments here. But he did not specify what we would pick up exactly though to be fair Trump hasn't said what he will scrap in the first place either yet.

Hungary will also be negatively impacted by sanctions too though won't you? Given that you are part of the EU. Though we still don't fully know what sanctions will be placed on the EU. A slow China might not be good for you either.

There is also something else that could affect us both, that being Trumps plans to reduce corporate tax. If the US lowers tax rates even further than it already has that's going to put even more pressure on the rest of the world to do the same to stop business relocating to the US.

>>52586
Sounds like it is have to be a balancing act.
That green energy thing: perhaps setting up solar farms in the desert. But then that's liek 90% Chinese imports. The hardware I mean.

>Hungary will also be negatively impacted by sanctions too though won't you? Given that you are part of the EU.
According to this thing US is a fairly large export destination for the Hungary, almost 4%. Well it was before the war, would be nice to see fresh data. But whatever happens it will have an impact.

Two years late that I'm posting this, but perhaps all politics thread OP should include it. From where I see this, basically this standpoint is quite prevalent among politicians, except they careful not saying it.
Is she a brave soul to came out this openly? I doubt, probably she knows very well nothing can harm her. So basically this is just a hücpe.
She's foreign minister of Germany.

Wanted to write about the crisis of the French government, after the commie coalition partner paired up with Le Pen's party for a vote of non confidence against the PM who only reigned since September after the previous government collapsed in June and Macron wanted to express with an election how the governing coalition is strong but turned out to be weak and they ended up forming a coalition with the commies instead of Le Pen... phew...
But I opened up Politico and saw so many hilarious headlines.

Romanian election, ruling elite shat itself from the result and made the constitutional court to cancel it. The explanation: Putin hacked the election with TikTok.
https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-court-cancels-presidential-election-runoff-tiktok-russian-influence-calin-georgescu/
>The unexpected ruling risks destabilizing Romania, a strategically important NATO member
Romania is a great springboard to reach Odessa quick for NATO. And also a great springboard to quickly push north to create a NATO controlled zone in western Ukraine. With a destabilized country would be NATO maneuvers more or less easy?
The award for most retarded take goes to George Simion, far-right AUR party leader:
>Shame!!! Coup d’état in full swing, [...] We are not taking to the streets, we will not be provoked. This system must fall democratically!
1. How is this a coup?
2. "we are outraged but we won't show it"
3. demonstrations are part of democracy
4. implications they could overthrow the government with demonstration...
Really he just wanted to say they can't do shit so they won't do shit, but "look at us we are outraged".

Hohoho.
Scholz failed his no confidence vote. Germany's government is past tense.
You know, Bernd, it is really reassuring that the two largest economies, and essentially the core of the EU, don't have a stable government. Actually they don't have governments at all.
Early election in February 23rd. I bet the "moderate" parties will do everything so the AfD is left out from the government, despite they are growing into one of the major parties.
Beside them on the left, perhaps radical left another group grows, whom also have anti-immigration notions, and even hit "EU skeptic" tones - their success is not being the AfD because many Germans shy away from the Nazi label.

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-olaf-scholz-lose-historic-confidence-vote/

>>52671
>Scholz failed his no confidence vote. Germany's government is past tense.
This one was surprising to me though. I was not expecting that to happen.

>>52672
His govt. cracked in half can't govern effectively from minority. If they voted him confidence that would meant he can have majority support in the Reichstag Bundestag, at least occasionally. And his work could have continued. That was denied from him the other day.

Listening Orbán's intro for the end year press conference. So this is just him talking, not replying to questions.
He opens with three points:
1. the Hungarian EU presidency is ending soon, evaluation;
2. the situation of Hungarian and EU politics after the US presidential elections;
3. decisions the Hungarian govt. took and will influence the plans for 2025.
But all before he expresses our condolences towards the families of the victims of the Magdeburg terror attack and to the German people, "we are with them". He says such events happens now on all the Christmases, as if run on by a timetable. These events only happen since Europe is hit by a migrant crisis. Some still deny it or don't see it, but that there is a connection, a causation between migration and the attacks.

1. Hungarian presidency
EU had a summit this week, where they said we have a "successful presidency" behind us. Lots of work was put into this. We already had a presidency, had to put more work now into it. Hungary is/was very isolated in this half a year. But at the end even our opponents congratulated for the work done.
1a. War
We had no room for maneuver.
In the EU there is a deep difference between opinions what should be the strategy of the EU in the Russo-Ukrainian War. One side - which has the overwhelming majority, and their will is enforced right now - says that the war is Europe's war too, as they call it "our war as well". Luckily they don't include us into the "our" - Orbán adds. They say it's a European war and we have to participate, only the way of participation is under debated - what to send, what not, when to send, how much to send. The other opinion is ours: this is not our war. This is a war of brothers between Slavic nations, and we should isolate, and not jump into it, and escalate it with out participation. This difference between opinion is in the European public thinking since the breakout of the war.
Since as president we could only express common EU opinions, our hands were tied. Despite this we could do peace mission which we separated from the presidency. I think they did not separate it.
1b. the question of Schengen Area
Schengen Area divides the EU into full and not actually full members. Bulgaria and Romania was outside of it and they could feel they weren't full members. For 10-13 years the expansion of the Schengen Area was blocked, can be known by which countries when and for what reasons, but this "blockade" was resolved with lots of negotiations. The two aforementioned countries will join now. Life becomes very different now for them, and for Hungary as well, since we are on the border of Schengen.
Now Hungary can move border guards and police away from the Romanian border.
1c. The worsening EU competitiveness
The Dragi report describes the situation quite radically. The Hungarian presidency led the creation of a document called Pact of Competitiveness, which is a plan to stop the decline, and reverse the process. Generally these types of "pacts" only touch typically leftist issues, such as social or climate problems, far from capitalism. It is really hard to create a consensus in a lefty Europe in questions of market, capital, investment, efficiency - so we are proud we managed.
1d. the outlook of the EU agriculture after 2027
Another 7 year cycle starts then. Huge funding goes into it, and negotiations and debates already started behind the scenes. Al 27 ministries of agriculture made an agreement on how the future should look like. This doesn't mean that debates end, they start now in earnest, but now everyone can see what are we debating about, and what goals we want to reach.
So as for the EU presidency, all in all it is worth to pick fights, and struggle, because results are showing.

2. US presidential election
Is there a new life after the US election? In Brussels they think: there is none. He says he experienced that in Brussels they behave nothing changed, they do what they did up until now, and continue. European elite did not noticed anything - he says legally this is right, since Trump is not sworn in yet. He noted the promised tariffs.
Europe should realize we will live in a new world, the Western approach to migration, family, traditional values, gender problems will change drastically. Economic ties will change, the view of the war will change, and the sanctions against Russia as well. He says we will move from war times into the period of peace. We are glad about it. We, Hungary can only lose on war. This is why we gave all the humanitarian help to Ukraine, but did not sent weapon. We secured the entry of 1.5 million Ukrainian citizen, most of them crossed the country, freshest data says 80 thousand live still here. We helped Ukraine with energy, electricity, training of doctors, saving of lives, and we continuously giving peace suggestions, right now there is a Hungarian suggestion on the table for cease fire and exchange of prisoners.
The war has economical impact, war means war economy as well. He says we can close this now and a new era can come. War can end, peace can begin. With the peace the embargo that plagues the European economy can end. The sanctions have to be lifted as much as possible. If this is managed successfully, the period of inflation will end as well, economic boom can start and prosperity can return to Europe.
We represent this standpoint in the EU debates. We always hit wall for now, because only a few small countries see this similarly, all the big players not recognized this yet. The majority block in the EU Parliament made a pact to keep everything how it is now as long as possible, and they decided to pressure all the countries to accept that in the next 5 years they all pay the GDP's 0.25% into the coffers for Ukraine's war support. According to us this point now is superseded, this is the past, we should talk about the next step. We should decide instead how to put this money not into the prolongation of the war, but into its closing, we should invest in the peace.
The US presidential election is in accord with the change in the EU Parliament and formation of the Patriots group (Patriots for Europe, PfE). All the offices were denied from the members, and now the liberal Brussels elite has an opposition in the Patriots (and with them, us).
Meanwhile we are punished with a €1 million per day because we defend the borders and don't let migrants into the EU.

3. Outlook and plans
We had another "national consultation".
If Bernd doesn't know what is this, it's liek an opinion research, they plan a number of questions with prepared answers, and they mail it to citizens, who can fill out the form and mail it back. The questions and answers are written in a way, that no man in his right mind would disagree with the answers that supports the Fidesz' opinion. An exaggerated example: "Do you want more money? 1. Yes. 2. No, in fact we want to pay more!" This opinion polling is used as a legitimization tool by Orbán and our govt. and it replaces plebiscites.
He says the participation shows that people want to be involved. He says this "national consultation" is always criticized, but for "us" it is important.
He lists some domestic economic measurements the govt took/takes. I won't type 'em in. No consequence for Bernd.

So while EU is preparing to enact tariffs on cars manufactured in China one of the Chinese companies, the BYD Auto, opens a factory on the Hungary. They'll employ ~10K people with €1800-2000 average salary which is a pretty good number hereabout. They're gonna produce electric and hybrid cars. BYD has an electric bus assembly plant in the country already.
I heard gossips about opening new factory(ies) for a while now, but this is the first actual news with concrete facts.
This has the obvious advantage of the cars being manufactured within the EU so no tariffs on them. Probably can't manufacture as much as China does at home, but it's just a first plant, perhaps they'll open more in other EU countries. Northern Hungary, Czechia, Poland, Croatia, Romania, perhaps even the Baltics would welcome them I'm sure if they see benefits from this example here.
https://index.hu/gazdasag/2024/12/29/kina-byd-szeged-kecskemet-fizetes-nyelvtanulas/

On a related note, how much more Chinese surveillance will find their way into our country?

Hah, Wikipee.
This is their production outside China. I'm pretty sure their factory here won't produce 150K yearly.