>another haphazard mishmash of confused hotkeys
Are there any Roguelikes with good controls?

>>12031
First, hotkey assignments are pretty much standard across roguelikes. So that's not a mishmash and you're the only one who is confused.
Second, this game minimizes actions to a handful of keys. It's pretty streamlined compared to others. It's kind of like Elona where one key brings up all the menus to tab through and there aren't even many of those.

>>12033
>First, hotkey assignments are pretty much standard across roguelikes.
Pretty damning critique of the genre fam.

I've been meaning to try this out. It's a cross between dungeon keeper and a roguelike. I've read it's pretty good.
https://keeperrl.com/

>>12034
A fact isn't a critique. Almost all roguelikes use the same hotkeys for the same actions. Being too retarded to memorize a handful of keys also is not a critique. It' just you being retarded.

>>12036
From reading the description, looks like DF already has done it.

>>12039
>all control schemes are fine once you memorize them
This is your argument?

>>12049
All genres of games have a somewhat universal set of controls that become intuitive as you get used to them, but that require some extra thought at first. When you claim that YOU can't into roguelikes because the controls are awkward for YOU, that isn't a criticism of the game. It's more of an admission of your own stupidity. And, if you read my argument, you'd see that's what I said. I'm not defending the control-scheme because it doesn't need defending, as you haven't made any real criticism. I'm calling you confused. That's my argument: that you're dumb.