>>203
If it stopped at "we believe that Europeans are the descendants the OT Hebrews" then that would be a fair matter of historical debate, but the assertion that Christ came just for Europeans is a false gospel.

Galatians 3 teaches that salvation by belief in Christ is available to all regardless of race, sex or status, and that this putting on of Christ is how to really be the inheritor of God's promise to Abraham.
Further, the vision of revelation includes a description of the presence of members of all races
<After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, (Rev 7:9)

>>209
tribes doesnt equal races

>>210
Nation does

>>209
I'm of the opinion that paul was preaching a false gospel. This is the same guy who made two different stories in act coming directly from luke. Who I believe wouldn't lie.
Acts 9 version
"3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 6And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. 7And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. 8And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. 9And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink"

Acts 22 version
"6And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 7And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 8And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. 9And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. 10And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. 11And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus."

Not to mention Paul actually directly contradicts Jesus.
Matthew 19:17
"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

Ephesians 2:15
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

Jesus came to fulfill the law not to destroy it.
Matthew 5:17-18
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Paul stated otherwise
Galatians 3:24-25
"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Not to mention James stated in his epistle that Faith without works are dead.
James 2:20
"But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?"
Paul states the opposite
Romans 3:20
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
Romans 3:28
"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
Galatians 2:16
"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

Paul states that there is none righteous
Romans 3:10
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

John disagrees
1 John 3:7
"Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous."

So does Jesus
Matthew 25:46
"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

and... Paul apparently?
Romans 5:7
"For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die."

>>277
He contradicts himself again.

Paul states that all Israel will be saved
Romans 11:26
"And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:"
Contradicts himself again
Romans 9:27
"Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:"

Not to mention Jesus
Matthew 5:20
"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Church of Asia applauded for denying a false apostle in revelation 2:2
"I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:"


Paul admits that "the churches of asia left him."
2 timothy 1:15
"This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes."

Pauls claims to be an apostle are actually dubious as well according to acts 1 there are two requirements to be an apostle.
Acts 1:22
"Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection."

Mattias was NEVER replaced. We are following the teachings of a false apostle and that is the truth. All the Pauline epistles should be discarded as gnostic texts which they are.

>>277
>>278

>Liberal whackos: "If we minimize or get rid of Paul, we can more easily Marx-ize Christianity!"

Right-wing nutjobs: "If we minimize or get rid of Paul, we can more easily Nazi-ize Christianity!"


Pauline epistles as a major linchpin of Christianity confirmed. They get the boot, and the psychos can come in and mold Christianity into whatever perversion they want.

>>279
I'm not a nazi. I am a christian. I am simply throwing out an argument. That clearly states the obvious that paul lied. I believe in the old testament and that we should follow those laws. Since Jesus never did away with them. Nazi's worship flesh and blood. They are not spiritual.
So have you actually debunked any of the verses I posted?

Also just gonna get this out there. I believe the two peter epistles were also written by Paul. Why is this well.

1 peter 5:12
"By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

Who is silvanus?

2 corinthians 1:19
"For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea."

1 thessalonians 1:1
"Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ."

2 thessalonians 1:1
2Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:"

Thus we can make the assumption that Paul could have made the epistles of peter to give himself more credability. Since silvanus did this. Not to mention in the beginning of the epistle "peter" mentions he is an apostle. Why would he do such a thing. When Jesus mentioned that no one was to go by the name of a teacher.

Matthew 23:8
"But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren."

Not to mention the other two apostles who made letters/books i.e James and John never referred to themselves as an apostle they referred to themselves as a servant to the lord

Revelation 1:1
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:"

James 1:1
"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

Remember this because it is the truth.

Acts 17:11
"These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

Please search through scriptures try to discover new things. For instance today I learned that God made Adam and Eve seperate from the rest of humanity.

>>281

"Apostle" doesn't even mean Rabbi, or Master, or Teacher, or anything involving authority. It simply means something along the lines of "Messenger" or "One Who Is Sent Out."

That's as far as I'm going. No I haven't debunked any of your context abusing (or blatantly idiotic, like the aforementioned "Apostle" argument) gish galloping, nor do I plan to, because I value my time and sanity, and have too much drama as it is in my life right now to waste time on this.

Plus, you've already outed yourself as the Judaiser from the other thread, which I am now starting to strongly suspect is either:

a) A trolling persona created by the Board Owner in order to drum up traffic through artificial and contrived controversy, or...

b) A new trolling persona of that Malaysian Anglican Guy from 8chan/you're just a mentally disturbed heretic who needs Christ.

So no, I am not playing this game. If you want to call this a win, go you. Here's your cookie. I'm out.

>>282
>No I haven't debunked any of your context abusing
Well this just makes my argument look stronger. You're labeling me a heretic without looking at my perspective and proceeding to call me a Judaiser. I know exactly why you won't debate. It's because you can't win.

>>279
>Right-wing nutjobs
What are you even doing on this website with that kind of argument, everyone to the right of Chairman Mao is a "right-wing nutjob" to you, including leftist centrists lmao